I was able to sit with my friend and colleague, Abby Desjardien, to chat about grief and living, and how they are both big and sometime equal parts of this human existence. And maybe that grief is necessary, instructive, and not as dark or scary as we think.

Check out her newly launched podcast and our episode here: The Art of Living and Grieving with Dr. Sunita Iyer

Enjoy!

#griefworkislifework #griefworkismywork #heartoutsideforever

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